Comments on: Formation Flying With Airliners to Cut Fuel Costs http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/12/formation-flying-with-airliners-to-cut-fuel-costs/ Exercise Your License to Learn Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:35:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: unqnrjlruo http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/12/formation-flying-with-airliners-to-cut-fuel-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-2814 unqnrjlruo Fri, 23 Apr 2010 04:31:15 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1538#comment-2814 8oalHf <a href="http://hwquouaqlekk.com/" rel="nofollow">hwquouaqlekk</a>, [url=http://xskqizghbmdv.com/]xskqizghbmdv[/url], [link=http://tptfqxdliubu.com/]tptfqxdliubu[/link], http://pooqrmzxqblx.com/ 8oalHf hwquouaqlekk, [url=http://xskqizghbmdv.com/]xskqizghbmdv[/url], [link=http://tptfqxdliubu.com/]tptfqxdliubu[/link], http://pooqrmzxqblx.com/

]]> By: jeff http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/12/formation-flying-with-airliners-to-cut-fuel-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-2801 jeff Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:34:45 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1538#comment-2801 that has to be the stupidest most unsafe thing ive heard in aviation. i think the scientist should go to work for either bush or obama he would fit right in that has to be the stupidest most unsafe thing ive heard in aviation. i think the scientist should go to work for either bush or obama he would fit right in

]]> By: Patrick Flannigan http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/12/formation-flying-with-airliners-to-cut-fuel-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-2535 Patrick Flannigan Tue, 29 Dec 2009 02:07:46 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1538#comment-2535 According to the study's theoretic models, you would still see some difference with two miles separation. I'd love to see some test results. I don't think it's a skill level problem for the pilots of passenger airliners. Formation flying, particularly at those distances, is not terribly difficult. Furthermore, many pilots at the majors came from a background of military aviation - with lots of formation flying behind them. The real problem lies in workload. With the sort of duty days pilots are required to work, you can't reasonably expect them to maintain that level of concentration for long. I think a lot of the benefits of this research are a pipe dream, but very interesting nonetheless. According to the study’s theoretic models, you would still see some difference with two miles separation. I’d love to see some test results.

I don’t think it’s a skill level problem for the pilots of passenger airliners. Formation flying, particularly at those distances, is not terribly difficult. Furthermore, many pilots at the majors came from a background of military aviation – with lots of formation flying behind them.

The real problem lies in workload. With the sort of duty days pilots are required to work, you can’t reasonably expect them to maintain that level of concentration for long. I think a lot of the benefits of this research are a pipe dream, but very interesting nonetheless.

]]> By: Cliff http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/12/formation-flying-with-airliners-to-cut-fuel-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-2525 Cliff Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:14:31 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1538#comment-2525 But the advantage of formation flying is thet you can sync all the computers and then the crew in all but the lead aircraft could go to sleep. At shift change, another crew wakes up and takes the pole position. The only issue I can see with this is the problem of how to pass the yellow jersey around mid-air. Cliff. But the advantage of formation flying is thet you can sync all the computers and then the crew in all but the lead aircraft could go to sleep. At shift change, another crew wakes up and takes the pole position.
The only issue I can see with this is the problem of how to pass the yellow jersey around mid-air.

Cliff.

]]> By: Jon Morby http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/12/formation-flying-with-airliners-to-cut-fuel-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-2524 Jon Morby Sun, 27 Dec 2009 20:57:03 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1538#comment-2524 I thought this was an April fools joke for a minute ... > with the proposed two to three miles of separation in formation How exactly would the upwash be an effect if you're separated by 2 miles from your "formated" partner? But tbh I couldn't imagine most of todays "passenger" pilots being skilled or capable enough to do this :( reference: http://www.golfhotelwhiskey.com/do-we-have-a-generation-of-passengers-instead-of-pilots/ I thought this was an April fools joke for a minute …

> with the proposed two to three miles of separation in formation

How exactly would the upwash be an effect if you’re separated by 2 miles from your “formated” partner?

But tbh I couldn’t imagine most of todays “passenger” pilots being skilled or capable enough to do this :(

reference: http://www.golfhotelwhiskey.com/do-we-have-a-generation-of-passengers-instead-of-pilots/

]]> By: Sylvia http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/12/formation-flying-with-airliners-to-cut-fuel-costs/comment-page-1/#comment-2429 Sylvia Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:05:20 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1538#comment-2429 That does make sense - but ugh, scheduling hell! We'd end up with one flight time a day and the airport packed. That does make sense – but ugh, scheduling hell! We’d end up with one flight time a day and the airport packed.

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