Comments on: Cloud Clearance: The Point and Wait Trick http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/ Exercise Your License to Learn Wed, 14 Jul 2010 02:19:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Cloud Clearance Made Easy - The Point and Wait Trick Video | AviationChatter.com http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/comment-page-1/#comment-2297 Cloud Clearance Made Easy - The Point and Wait Trick Video | AviationChatter.com Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:09:53 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1378#comment-2297 [...] has been a lot of talk about the “point and wait” trick for cloud clearance since my first post on the subject. To clear up any questions on the matter, I went up and shot some video of this rule [...] [...] has been a lot of talk about the “point and wait” trick for cloud clearance since my first post on the subject. To clear up any questions on the matter, I went up and shot some video of this rule [...]

]]> By: Ben http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/comment-page-1/#comment-2295 Ben Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:23:59 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1378#comment-2295 Another way to check this is to use a half-full water bottle. Assuming you are in straight-and-level unaccelerated flight, the water in the bottle will be perfectly horizontal. Just look across the top of the water and see if the cloud/airplane is above or below the water's "horizon." Another way to check this is to use a half-full water bottle. Assuming you are in straight-and-level unaccelerated flight, the water in the bottle will be perfectly horizontal. Just look across the top of the water and see if the cloud/airplane is above or below the water’s “horizon.”

]]> By: Patrick Flannigan http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/comment-page-1/#comment-2214 Patrick Flannigan Sat, 12 Sep 2009 02:46:01 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1378#comment-2214 So a thumb is about four degrees? I'll have to play around with that. I'm holding my thumb up at arms length and it looks about right, we'll see what the attitude indicator says next time I go flying! So a thumb is about four degrees? I’ll have to play around with that. I’m holding my thumb up at arms length and it looks about right, we’ll see what the attitude indicator says next time I go flying!

]]> By: Julien http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/comment-page-1/#comment-2211 Julien Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:06:48 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1378#comment-2211 Great tip! If your window is the well-used type with plenty of existing scratches on the perspex, you can do without the grease pencil or finger, as long as you remember which scratch the cloud aligned with a few seconds ago. Smashed bugs work quite well too. Fingers can come in quite handy for judging angles in a number of in-flight situations, such as slope angles on a visual approach. There's a nice little explanation <a href="http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/landing.html#sec-landing-high-low" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Incidenly, this may well be where the expression "rule of thumb" comes from: a thumb at arm's length covers about 4 degrees. Great tip! If your window is the well-used type with plenty of existing scratches on the perspex, you can do without the grease pencil or finger, as long as you remember which scratch the cloud aligned with a few seconds ago. Smashed bugs work quite well too.

Fingers can come in quite handy for judging angles in a number of in-flight situations, such as slope angles on a visual approach. There’s a nice little explanation here. Incidenly, this may well be where the expression “rule of thumb” comes from: a thumb at arm’s length covers about 4 degrees.

]]> By: Patrick Flannigan http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/comment-page-1/#comment-2138 Patrick Flannigan Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:37:03 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1378#comment-2138 Very true. If the cloud is exploding upwards best steer around it. I caught the tip of one of those ones yesterday and it made for quite the kick in the pants. Very true. If the cloud is exploding upwards best steer around it. I caught the tip of one of those ones yesterday and it made for quite the kick in the pants.

]]> By: Patrick Flannigan http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/comment-page-1/#comment-2137 Patrick Flannigan Fri, 21 Aug 2009 15:35:50 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1378#comment-2137 Great idea! Great idea!

]]> By: Sylvia http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/comment-page-1/#comment-2136 Sylvia Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:48:23 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1378#comment-2136 Wow, I'm totally taking a grease pencil with me next time! Wow, I’m totally taking a grease pencil with me next time!

]]> By: Vincent, from PlasticPilot.net http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/comment-page-1/#comment-2135 Vincent, from PlasticPilot.net Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:28:10 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1378#comment-2135 Nice tip, but beware of those clouds with rapid vertical development, they are not so funny to fly in. Nice tip, but beware of those clouds with rapid vertical development, they are not so funny to fly in.

]]> By: Bicknell Eubanks http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/comment-page-1/#comment-2133 Bicknell Eubanks Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:27:51 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1378#comment-2133 I have found that an old fashioned grease pencil works very well and is erasable. I have found that an old fashioned grease pencil works very well and is erasable.

]]> By: Patrick Flannigan http://www.aviationchatter.com/2009/08/cloud-clearance-point-and-wait/comment-page-1/#comment-2132 Patrick Flannigan Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:36:43 +0000 http://www.aviationchatter.com/?p=1378#comment-2132 With how scratch-happy those windows are, thats probably the best plan. But I have seen other CFIs use dry-erase markers to demonstrate a bunch of things (such as drawing a horizon reference point) to great effect. Let's see, what's the disclaimer on that? I am in no way responsible if you mess up your window! :-) With how scratch-happy those windows are, thats probably the best plan. But I have seen other CFIs use dry-erase markers to demonstrate a bunch of things (such as drawing a horizon reference point) to great effect. Let’s see, what’s the disclaimer on that? I am in no way responsible if you mess up your window! :-)

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